
When I see wealthy people depicted in novels, my first impulse is to dislike them. After all, while some people make their own fortunes and don’t hurt others doing so, many other people are rich because they inherited money or because they’re ruthless employers. But occasionally my defenses are beaten down and I really like a very affluent character.
An example — in a novel I’m currently reading — is Count Alexander Rostov of Amor Towles’ superb A Gentleman in Moscow. Rostov evokes our sympathy not only because he’s under house arrest in a Moscow hotel after the Russian Revolution but because he’s also smart, talented, patient, charming, good-natured, and nice to everyone in all walks of life. Plus Rostov has a history of not being a total apologist for Russia’s pre-revolution aristocracy — which is why he was sentenced to house arrest rather than execution at the hands of the newly empowered Bolsheviks.
Other upper-class protagonists impossible to hate? Bertie Wooster of P.G. Wodehouse’s Jeeves novels and stories is an idle sort but often rather endearing — as well as funny and loyal. Also likable is financially comfortable son-of-a-judge Archie Weir in Robert Louis Stevenson’s unfinished novel Weir of Hermiston.
It helps us feel sympathy for wealthy characters when they go through difficulties that money can’t solve or completely solve. One example is the title character in Sinclair Lewis’ Dodsworth who’s an automobile magnate but also going through later-in-life marital troubles. Newland Archer of Edith Wharton’s The Age of Innocence is a wealthy young lawyer engaged to bland socialite May Welland before becoming conflicted by getting romantically interested in the unconventional countess Ellen Oleska. Isabel Archer (hmm…that last name again) of Henry James’ The Portrait of a Lady is an heiress but seems like a genuinely nice person who makes a very bad marital choice.
Oh, and Edmond Dantes becomes super-rich in Alexandre Dumas’ The Count of Monte Cristo but had to endure enormous suffering before a chance meeting in prison eventually made him a non-blood-related heir to a fortune — which he put to good use getting revenge on the people who framed him.
There are also novels featuring moneyed queens and kings whose behavior is often nasty but sometimes decent. For instance, King Louis XI of Sir Walter Scott’s Quentin Durward is Machiavellian and King Louis XIII of Alexandre Dumas’ The Three Musketeers is petty but the eventual king Aragorn in J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings is brave and admirable. Of course, Aragorn wasn’t rich and not living the royal life during most of the trilogy. 🙂
Wealthy fictional characters you’ve liked?
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Hi Dave,
I’ve just finished reading The Pickwick Papers which I found to be a lot of fun. I’m not sure that the Pickwickians were rich, but they definitely had a lot of free time, and whenever I fantasise about winning lotto, it’s not ‘what would I do with all the money’, it’s ‘what would I do with all that time’!
A very witty piece last week. Of course I’m horrified to know that Roe v Wade has been overturned. Maybe the government is just trying to make sure they don’t run out of school children to be shot at? It’s beyond disgusting to know that kids have no protection once they actually become people.
Unfortunately I don’t have anything to add for this week’s article. I think Shakespeare’s plays are the only thing I’ve read older than the 1800s. Though Robinson Crusoe is on my list.
Mmm, taken me two weeks to finally pen this, and now I see someone already mentioned the Dickens novel. Lucky you have no rules on this page 🙂
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Hi Susan. Thank you! “The Pickwick Papers” is indeed a lot of fun — perhaps the most fun Dickens novel. And — yes! — having a lot of money can mean having a lot more time to do what one wants. An excellent point.
And a great point about the “pro-life” movement in the U.S. being very focused on being pro-fetus but having little concern about what happens to babies and their parents after the birth. Such hypocrites. “Maybe the government is just trying to make sure they don’t run out of school children to be shot at?” — amazing, depressingly hilarious line!
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Dave how about Mr. Atticus Finch in Harper lee`s ” To kill a mockingbird”.
Atticus Finch to me was known for his compassion, thoughtfulness, honesty, and morality. Atticus strongly advocates that people are equal regardless of their background and skin color.
A single Father raised two of his motherless children Jem and Scout. .
Yes Atticul was not wealthy but wealthy in his mind.
I am writing this because I know Dave you did not read ” Go Set a Watchman “, on which we discussed extensively.
The book I wish was never published. Ms. Lee was senile then and her Atorney pushed her to consent to publish the book.
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Thank you, Bebe, for the excellent mention! Atticus may not have been super-wealthy, but I guess he was relatively affluent as a lawyer. And, yes, from everything I’ve heard he was a nicer guy in “To Kill a Mockingbird” than he was in “Go Set a Watchman.” SO admirable in “TKAM.”
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So many great comments here, not that I have read all.
I had this question in the back of my mind for days now.
Still I can only think of Prince Escalus, in Romeo and Juliette. It’s a play, but..
Anyway… who is the main protagonist in Romeo and Juliette?
I don’t see one.
Prince Escalus is “a” protagonist. He seeks peace, and the better good of the citizens of Verona.
I adore this character.
After that… Bruce Wayne in Batman is a rich/good guy, but that is comic book literature. Does that count?
Great topic, Dave!
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Thank you, Resa! 🙂 I agree about the comments — so many excellent ones, as always. 🙂
Very nice Shakespeare and Batman mentions! Heck, Batman has been in novels — well, graphic novels, in addition to comic books and of course movies.
By the way, I knew and wrote about cartoonist Jerry Robinson, who named Robin and created The Joker while he was a teenager working on the early Batman comics 80-some years ago.
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How fab! I know you were a critic or reviewed comic characters …. something… so I am not surprised you are connected to that hierarchy.
I think this might be part of why you like my “Gowntoons”.
You have a particularly special insight.
I’m so happy to have met you …out here…. in space… in life!!!!!!!
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Thank you, Resa! Happy to have met you in “the blogosphere” as well!
I covered newspaper syndication (including cartooning) for many years for a magazine, which gave me a chance to interview many creators. I didn’t cover comic books much, but Jerry Robinson also did newspaper cartoons, which is how I met him. He lived in NYC, a subway ride from my magazine’s office, so I spent many hours at his apartment/studio. When Jerry got the idea for The Joker around 1940 or so, he looked for and found a deck of playing cards to help himself make the first sketches.
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That is fascinating!
You know, I always thought the Joker was from a Joker!
All those original Batman nemesis were brilliant.
There’s way too many superheroes & villains now. Lol! That’s why I do Princess Blue Holly, the super hero who changes her outfits as per the crime occasion. AGMs in gowns getting into trouble. It’s a mockery & it’s fun!
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You thought correctly, Resa! Impressive!
Yes, those Batman villains were/are great, with most created before there were many other superheroes and their antagonists. (Among the earliest costumed superheroes was The Phantom, from Lee Falk’s 1930s-created newspaper comic strip, who predated Batman and Superman.)
Princess Blue Holly is a terrific character and a terrific “conceit”!
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Thank you, Dave! Not everyone gets what I do on Art Gowns, and that’s cool. I adore my pals who do. PBH is one of my joys. Of course there is an unfinished adventure… and just chatting here today has given me the ideas to start drawing the finale. What fun this will be.
OH, I just finished … 5 minutes ago…. my new Art Gown. It will be dedicated to Shey! I’m so excited!!!!!!!!!
Of course now I have to clean up (what a mess I made) then take pics, then edit pics, then make the post. I’m thinking 7 -10 days.
Love your use of “conceit”!
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Looking forward to the launch of you new art gown Resa!!! Exciting!
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YES!!!
Oh, you will laugh yourself silly when you see the final episode of the latest PBH story… the one where you were kidnapped to Art Direct a show.
Anyway… I need time to do the drawings…. so after the NEW ART GOWN!
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Thank you for the comments and conversation, Resa and Rebecca! Resa, SO exciting what you described — including the Shehanne and Rebecca connections. Creativity to the nth degree. Can’t wait to see it all!
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Dave speaking of Tagore, in English
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Thank you, Bebe! Looks great! Will try to find time to watch it. 🙂
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Not very long Dave, could wat little at a time, I watched ten minutes of it and i`ll continue later.
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A sensible approach, Bebe. 🙂
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Dave I know Misty keeps you on your toes, but this is always availavle by Satyajit Roy , Oscar winning director, and I think music could be by Pandir Ravi Shankar,
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Thanks, Bebe! With Misty and Maria and other things and work, extra time is often hard to find. 🙂 😦
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Yes of course Dave and thanks to post your Literature column each and every week !!
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Thank you, Bebe! 🙂 I try not to miss too many, but this week was a close call; I just started and finished tomorrow’s post today. 🙂
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OTOH:
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”– Matthew 19:24
“Whose name is written as in pitch
Upon the unrelenting foreheads of the rich,
Satan, at last have mercy on our suffering!”– Charles Baudelaire
“Behind every great fortune is a great crime.”– Honore de Balzac
“The rich are the scum of the earth in every country.– GK Chesterton
“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”– F. Scott Fitzgerald
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Thank you, jhNY, for those GREAT quotes. I found myself nodding vigorously several times in agreement. 🙂 Yes, while some very wealthy people are decent sorts, the vast majority are…um…problematic.
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The admirable rich man I offer is a fictitious character sent out into the world by Samuel Johnson in 1759, in a philosophical novel titled “The History of Rasselas, Prince of Abyssinia”. In anticipation and preparation for his eventual ascendance to the throne, the prince spends his youth surrounded by abundance in Happy Valley, a place where, as a means of preserving his innocence, he is also scrupulously shielded from those aspects of life– sickness, poverty, age– which tend to cause the impressionable mind to concentrate on mortality and morality, topics that clash with the intent and practice of those to whom his care and instruction has been entrusted.
Yet the prince is not content in Happy Valley, and eventually finds his way out of his paradisical prison,in the company of his sister, her attendant, and his philosopher-teacher Imlac. The prince et al intend to find happiness, and wander far and wide in search of it, principally through modern Egypt. Wandering convinces the party to abandon their search, as it is nowhere to be found, except fleetingly. They return to Happy Valley, wiser, certain now their quest was itself a folly, in that happiness, conceptually, is a state– and there are no states in a world of constant flux.
The wikipedia entry for the book notes that” Rasselas” shares its publication date with Voltaire’s “Candide”,a coincidence of contrasts, and includes this observation by Jose Luis Borges:
“This idea of a prince condemned to a happy imprisonment has resonance – Johnson himself was probably ignorant of it – in the legend of Buddha, though it would have reached him through the story ofBarlam and Josaphat, adopted as the subject of one of Lope de Vega’s comedies: the idea of a prince who has been brought up surrounded with artificial happiness.”
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Thank you, jhNY! Sounds like a very interesting Samuel Johnson book, described very interestingly by you! And that’s quite a publishing coincidence of “The History of Rasselas, Prince of Abyssinia” and Voltaire’s “Candide” — the latter of which I love and find very readable for an 18th-century work. Finally, your mention of Jose Luis Borges reminded me of how much I love Borges’ short stories.
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” Gora”, the epic Novel by Rabindranat Tagore was translated into multiple languages,Dave, Gora is perhaps the most popular literary character Tagore created by the same name. Gora was far from being rich but was rich in mind and his transformation was unique.
Gora comes to the front because of his metamorphosis from a staunch Hindu to a liberal. He breaks out of the prison created in his own mind by himself and the nineteenth century predominant Brahminical society.
Gora was an idealist and an optimist. He was a compassionate soul , who believed all evils could be uprooted if everyone embraced Hinduism
.He was also very close to his Mother.
Nationalism, especially religion based nationalism, is something that we are all forced to ponder over today in our current political environment. Thus, to read a story set in late 19th century Bengal written by Rabindranath Tagore
Dave you would have loved the book but I would not ask you to read any translation, because I have no clue how they would be.
Fast forward..How his transformation to a liberal happened ?
I read the book many times but long ago…,
Don`t remember how Gora exactly and when discovered himself…his Mother kept the secret.
YES he was his Mother`s Son, but one destitute westerner delivered Gora whom she took in her arms.
Gora`s transformation was monumental and beautiful !!!!
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Thank you, Bebe! Terrific, intriguing description! A book that seems to have MANY interesting elements. I’ve had “Gora” on my to-read list for a while, since you first recommended it, but my local library didn’t have it. Will look again. If it’s there, I’ll take a chance on the translation!
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Please do, you could request them to buy the book as I am sure they know you well.
n todays world of criminal ( no mention of any name), this book is special.
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That’s a possibility, Bebe! But hopefully they’ll have it, or I can always buy it. 🙂
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Jack has too many things going on but he adores Tagore`s work so I hinted to look at “Gora”
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Glad Jack is a Tagore fan, and I hope he reads “Gora”! I’ve read some of Tagore’s poetry (that you posted and elsewhere). It’s magnificent.
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So many from the other place wantde me to jpoin his site, since then he was not a friend I hesitated.
So one day when I opened the site, the top theme was a poem by Tagore and I was stunned !
Since then I was there , i was with you for longer time.
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One of the positive things about Jack. 🙂
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Sorry Dave, if you think this is inapproprate you could delete it..

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Well, Bebe, that kind of captures Trump — who to describe as a rich, entitled jerk would be a gross understatement. I’d have to at least add the word evil.
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So evil Moster, I never campares him with any animals, they have compassion.
I am counting the days down , hopefully.
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I agree, Bebe. I would take an animal over Trump any time.
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Samuel Pickwick of Dickens’s The Pickwick Papers seems to have access to more-than-sufficient funds, but seems to be a pleasant sort, if a little disconnected. The Pickwickians’ friend Mr. Wardle has a lot of money but likes to share, too, particularly at Christmastime.
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Thank you, Don! Excellent mentions! Dickens definitely created a bunch of affluent characters, some of them fairly sympathetic, in addition to his less-affluent ones. Even Scrooge, after he went through his ghost-induced transformation. 🙂
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Thank you very much, Prior…! 🙂
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Great post. It reminded me of the only Amor Towles novel I have read: “Rules of Civility.” No appealing rich people there, although the character of the editor is hilarious.
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Thank you, vanaltman! That is definitely another Amor Towles novel I might read. I always welcome hilarious characters. 🙂
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At some point, you’d think most wealthy individuals would discover those things their money can’t buy such as all those virtues we so admire, i.e. kindness, goodness, sweetness all sincere and free of artifice; however, you can’t buy the wisdom it takes to know how truly valuable they are so there’s the fly in the ointment. I’d say my rich protagonist which isn’t a jerk would be Vonnegut’s Eliot Rosewater. And I’ll add one of KV’s priceless quotes which may ease our suffering re what we are now experiencing in our country and around the globe. “Be soft. Do not let the world make you hard. Do not let the pain make you hate. Do not let the bitterness steal your sweetness. Take pride that even though the rest of the world may disagree, you still believe it to be a beautiful place.”
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Thank you! Very well said! One does wonder why — and lament that — there are so many wealthy people who are jerks and not more who are good, kind, generous, etc. And that’s a wonderful quote from Vonnegut. Not sure he personally lived the sentiments in that quote as much as he could have, but I’m sure he tried.
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Guess it was difficult for him to be soft and not be angry and/or hate having been a POW and going through the bombing of Dresden, but yes I agree he strived. WWII really did a job on a lot of men who stuffed their feelings and carried on. I mean they were very young at the time, almost kids. I remember one time my father was recalling the time he served in the navy in the Pacific theater and those memories made him weep. Its a shock to watch your father, a strong and vital man, openly cry. I think I lost my own trust in the world being a safe place after that. *sigh* Susi (anonymous)
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So true, Susi, that being in a war can scar a person (emotionally and/or physically) for life. And Vonnegut experienced more than the average soldier — who were/are indeed very young in most cases. Moving and sobering and heartbreaking to hear about your father’s reaction to his time in the military. 😦
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I absolutely believe the world is a beautiful place, I take time to enjoy the ocean or a beautiful full moon, cute children enjoying themselves so innocent. I’m fully aware the world is also full of ma So i try to tread carefully but still they are cunning and maliscious predators out there and that does make me somewhat angry. I wouldnt say it normally ruins my day or anything but ive been impacted by these predators more than once and as young as a 4 yo child, so i feel i have something to be angry about if id like. I find most often I focus on my children who are grown and my grandchildren and most importantly I learn new things every day I become more knowledgeable and I love knowledge. I soak it up. The more you know the better off you will be in any and all situations I feel. You would not believe what I’m studying right now and I’m not sharing it with the world. Ahaha
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Thank you very much for your thoughts, kelley196933627cda30f4. I agree that there’s almost always some reasons for optimism amid a lot of things to be pessimistic about.
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Hi ty for yor interest in my website. I appreciate it. Hope you are well! I also love books, learning and reading. I find I study most things on my devices now a days. Just look up a subject or book on it and I’m an expert quickly. Anyway.thanks again.
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Thank you for the comment, kelley196933627cda30f4! Devices have certainly changed the reading and research experience!
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Hi Dave, when considering this topic, the reading material of my youth comes to mind more than adult books I’ve read. Richie Rich (the poor little rich boy) was a comic I loved as a kid. I had a whole stack of them and spend a lot of pocket money buying the new ones. There were also a number of Enid Blyton books which featured kids from wealthy homes that I loved. The Famous Five was one series. Those children all attended private schools so their parents had money. There was also the Mallory Towers series, books about a private girls school in the UK. Interestingly enough, not all of Enid Blyton’s characters were wealthy, the children in The Faraway Tree came from a poor family and their mother took in washing to earn money. There is also Hercule Poirot who was a wealthy man and very entertaining to read about.
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Thank you, Robbie! I remember the Richie Rich comic books! Great mention. 🙂 I’m glad you brought up wealthy characters in children’s books, with some of those characters sympathetic. I suppose Nancy Drew was also from a relatively affluent family (her father was a lawyer). And while it’s not a children’s book per se, I’m also now thinking of Mark Twain’s “The Prince and the Pauper.”
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Hi Dave, both of those books/series are great mentions. I was thibking about characters who disappoint the reader in books after I read your post. Not because the detract from the story but because you, as a reader, expected better behaviour or more, from them. That is also an interesting topic.
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That IS an interesting topic, Robbie. People who disappoint us are certainly around in real life as well. 🙂 😦
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Indeed they are
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I’m very glad you enjoyed a Gentleman in Moscow! I just read Towles’ new one earlier this summer, “the Lincoln Highway” which is also very good. As for other rich characters – Mr. Darcy always comes to mind 🙂 Although you start off not wanting to like him in the book! Can’t really discount jolly old Mr. Bingley from the same story either! 🙂 A novel I really enjoyed about a woman with inherited wealth/status is “American Princess” by Stephanie Marie Thornton. It tells the little known story of Alice Roosevelt (Teddy’s daughter) and I definitely found myself falling in love with her!
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Thank you, M.B.! I definitely plan on reading more of Towles if my library has him.
Yes, Mr. Darcy — absolutely. And while I haven’t read “American Princess,” I’ve been a fan of the free-thinking Alice Roosevelt from nonfiction stuff I’ve seen about her.
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Thank you for sharing interesting post! I still haven’t read “A Gentleman in Moscow” , but I know some of the other characters you talk about
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Thank you, Luisa! Glad you enjoyed the post and read some of the novels mentioned in it! Hope you get to “A Gentleman in Moscow” one day; it’s really good. 🙂
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Thank you very much, Dave, for your kind reply 🙏🙏🙏
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You’re very welcome, Luisa! 🙂
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Hi – this is an interesting post. I loved A Gentleman in Moscow and agree with your comments. Also, I always wonder what people think when I say I love P.G. Wodehouse’s books. I know it’s very upper crust, but his books are so funny and Bertie is an endearing character, despite his wealth. I’m going to have to go back and think about The Age of Innocence and Archer – I remember him, but not everything.
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Thank you, Book Club Mom!
It seems like almost everyone loves “A Gentleman in Moscow.” 🙂
Yes, those Bertie/Jeeves books and stories are VERY entertaining. I definitely laughed out loud many times. When one reads a lot of novels with not-affluent characters, it doesn’t hurt to read some with upper-crust characters. 🙂
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I absolutely love P.G. Wodehouse’s books!
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They are definitely a pleasure to read, Liz!
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I’ve umm’d and ah’d over this book, so long it seemed far-fetched, as you say, how come he survived purges? Likeable characters – I draw the line at Wooster. Not for me.
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Thank you, Michael! I’m only halfway through “A Gentleman in Moscow,” but I gather from what appears at the start of the novel that Rostov several years before expressed some written thoughts sympathetic to the Bolshevik cause — enough to later get house arrest over execution. And of course there wouldn’t be a book if he didn’t live many years in the hotel. 🙂
Not sure I’d want Bertie Wooster as a friend, but I do find him entertaining. The “servant” Jeeves is obviously the brains in the household!
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I’ll take Protagonist Vampires for $1000, Alex! Vampires always seem to have amassed centuries worth of wealth. Coming to mind are the Cullens from the Twilight series and Lestat and others from Anne Rice’s novels.
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LOL, Donna! 😂 Thank you! Great point about vampires amassing a lot of money. It helps to live a LONG time. Of course, some vampires are more likable than others. 🙂
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How about Rabindranath Tagore , Nobel Laureate in Literature in 1913.
Was born in wealth from a well to do family, but gave it all up to establish a University , he called Santiniketan ( Land of Peace) .
The school had an open air concept .
Tagore also wanted to attract students from all over the World, with Art School. Japanese and Chinese cultures. and so much more
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Sorry Dave, I wrote about the author not the subject .
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Thank you, Bebe! Still very relevant. I greatly admire people born to wealth who do good things with it — and perhaps give a lot away. Tagore sure sounds light years better than Trump.
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Since we are on Tagore, later I will write about His epic Novel ” Gora”, was translated in many languages.
The book might fit to the category.
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I look forward to that, Bebe!
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Dave this Country right now is in such a bad state.
It is so scary .
The Country was established with immigrants and later The real-Americans now are second class citizens.
Somehow they can not nail Donald Trump
We are hoping that would come sooner than later
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I agree, Bebe. Things are appalling in the U.S. now, with the disgusting far right disproportionately wielding so much power while too many Democratic politicians aren’t fighting back hard enough.
And, yes, Trump is so criminally guilty that it’s demoralizing how he hasn’t been punished. It will mean future possible Republican presidents (Trump or others) will rightly believe they can do anything and get away with it. 😦
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Democratic politicians have their own problem with in-fighting.
Politicians are for themselves not for the Country.
This is the perfect time to vote out the Republicans, but I don`t see it happening.
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I agree with all three of your points, Bebe. 😦
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I am delighted that you are enjoying A Gentleman in Moscow. I read that Amor Towles’s inspiration for the novel was his experience staying at luxury hotels, specifically, a hotel in Geneva, Switzerland. It seems that there were many permanent guests. For those who follow The Duchess of Cornwall’s reading room Instagram, Amor Towles was interviewed on how the book came into being. As you know, I love back stories.
I have often considered the idea of how our psychology relates to stereotypes such as wealthy characters. I confess that I did not like Jay Gatsby, although I recognize that there are many underlying themes in this book that address, among many things, class status. It seems that there is an element of “just rewards” when it comes to wealthy characters, such as Jay Gatsby and Edward Fairfax Rochester in Jane Eyre. I think that, in the end, we want these characters to be human.
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Thank you, Rebecca! Interesting to hear about Amor Towles’ inspiration! There’s something fascinating about permanent hotel guests. I think I read that Nabokov, after becoming rich from “Lolita,” spent a number of his later years living in a hotel.
I didn’t like Jay Gatsby very much, either. Edward Rochester was more appealing to me, though of course he was a mixed bag and my sympathies were mostly with Jane.
Yes, we want wealthy characters to feel human — not like ogres (as is the case with some of them).
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I had to smile when I read that Amor Towles spent a great deal of time in luxury hotels!!! And then there is Fawlty Towers!!! LOL
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Staying in luxury hotels is tough research, but someone has to do it. 🙂
And great “Fawlty Towers” mention, Rebecca! John Cleese!
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I love Fawlty Towers, Dave and Rebecca.
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Much to love, Robbie! (I’m also a big fan of Monty Python. 🙂 )
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For sybaritic trysts, perhaps nothing is more essential than a pretty room in a first-class hotel, where the loving couple is free to enjoy themselves, and to make lavish use of the Towels of Amor, supplied in deep-piled abundance by the management.
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LOL, jhNY! 😂
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I didn’t really like Jay Gatsby either. that he was ‘ better than the rest of them’ didn’t say very much about the rest . I could never get Daisy. She just didn’t come off the page for me either. Fitzgerald’s prose is what I love rather than his characters.
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That’s an astute observation about Fitzgerald, Shehanne. (The prose vs. characters reference.) Thank you! And, yes, hard to like most of the people in “The Great Gatsby.”
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Re rich folks in books, I was going to mention Valjean from Les Mis. he’s not throwing parties and splashing wealth but after the terrible start in his life he does rise up in the world and he is using his accumulated wealth for good causes until Javert gets wind of him.
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Thank you, Shehanne! Yes, one does like him and feel sympathy for him. Excellent mention!
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Thank you Dave. he’s not in the champagne splashing league but he’s quietly pretty wealthy.
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“…the champagne splashing league” — love that phrase! 🙂
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Lol you’re too kind but last night I was thinking of ones in that league, then I thought of humbler philanthropists..
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Philanthropists are especially impressive when they don’t give away money mostly for the publicity, for “reputation-washing,” to get a building named after them, etc. 🙂
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You are so right. Then there’s those who do build crashing empires in books.
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Some of course deserve the crash!
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Thread’s maxed, so I can’t reply to your reputation-washing comment below–
There us at least once instance of such ostentatious doings for which I will always be grateful: the Bardi Chapel in the Basilica di Santa Croce, Florence, paid for by a banker who wished, despite a life of practiced usury, to slip through the Gates via this good deed. Without his fear of eternal fire, likely made more real by the efforts of Dante, in whose “Inferno” usury sinks its practitioner to the lowest circle of Hell, Giotto might never have painted his fresco series of the life of Saint Francis of Assisi. The beautiful blues in these paintings were made from ground lapis lazuli, a prohibitively costly ingredient for most contemporary painters, but not for Giotto, thanks to his wealthy patron, who was, in fairness, more concerned with his reputation above, than on earth.
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Reputation-washing can indeed have some benefits for the arts and for the public, even as we wish the rich would do good instead of doing bad before doing some good in order to be less hated.
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One of my favourite quotes ( you knew that I would add a quote, didn’t you!?? LOL) is from Ivanhoe, by Sir Walter Scott:
“He that does good, having the unlimited power to do evil, deserves praise not only for the good which he performs, but for the evil which he forbears.” Sir Walter Scott, Ivanhoe
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A superb quote, Rebecca!
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I was going to mention Jay Gatsby. I don’t think he’s a rich, entitled jerk, just deluded, misguided, and sad.
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That’s a good point, Liz. I still didn’t like Jay Gatsby, but one could somewhat understand where he was coming from. He wasn’t an out-and-out villain.
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Thanks.
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In a cut-throat capitalist environment, the most dangerous among the rivals, if not always the most successful longterm, is he who understands that the most efficient form of work is theft.
As Woody Guthrie opined in “The Ballad of Pretty Boy Floyd”
Through this world I ramble/
I meet lots of funny men/
Some will rob you with a six-gun/
And some with a fountain pen.
It’s possible, depending on the extent of his activities with Wolfsheim, that Gatsby managed a bit of both.
But let us never forget, despite his moral laxity in pursuit of a bulging bankroll, he had lovely shirts, and in great abundance.
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Woody Guthrie was beyond wise when it came to dissecting capitalists!
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HI Liz, what do you think about Heathway from Wuthering Heights? He came from poverty and became an abusive horror show of a man
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Do you mean Heathcliff? He did end up a very twisted individual.
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Haha, Yes, Heathcliff. I was going to a shopping centre called Heathway to meet my sister so it was on my mind.
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I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve done the same thing!
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I just had in mind to name the rich Mr. Rochester in Jane Eyre, Rebecca, but I think you have already very well expressed my thoughts.
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Thank you, Martina! I agree, on balance, that Mr. Rochester is a sympathetic character despite his major flaws — his arrogance at times, the major secret he kept, etc. He certainly ended up getting taken down a couple pegs by life.
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HI Dave, I always felt that Mr Rochester was a decent man at heart who got a bad deal with his wife. He was a product of his time, but would have been a nice and good man through the eyes of someone like Charlotte Bronte who lived in the Victorian era. He didn’t abuse his staff like many masters did.
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I agree with you, Robbie — Rochester definitely had some good traits, and was relatively enlightened for his time. (Jean Rhys in her “Jane Eyre” prequel “Wide Sargasso Sea” took a somewhat more jaundiced view of Rochester while acknowledging he was a victim to an extent.)
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I haven’t read that, but I have read reviews of it.
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Wonderfully written book that offers a new perspective on “Jane Eyre,” but I liked “Jane Eyre” much better.
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Many thanks, Dave, for your precision, which I may not have remembered, especially Rochester’s arrogance!
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You’re very welcome, Martina! 🙂
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Many thanks, Martina. What is most interesting about Jane Eyre is that she followed a romance theme that is still being used and loved today – boy meets girl, they fall in love but have difficulty communicating (a secret, a flaw etc), a critical event happens that bring them together and they live happily ever after.
Romance is alive and well. I was reading fortune.com that “Romance accounted for 18% of adult fiction unit sales in the 12 months ending March 2021, making it the second most popular fiction genre overall—second only to general adult fiction—which accounted for 30% of adult fiction sales in the same time frame.” And both men and women enjoy this genre. Crime Fiction is VERY popular, but I digress for that is another topic.
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So true, Rebecca, that “Jane Eyre” is somewhat formulaic in its way — while also being wildly original in other ways. Still my favorite novel ever!
And very interesting to see just how popular romance is in literature. Not surprising, of course. 🙂
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I must admit, Rebecca, that I haven’t been completely convinced that Jane Eyre is a romance, because of her many different obstacles she had to overcome in her childhood and which seem to also refer to Brontë’s own life as well as the perseverance she showed during her life I would have called it something like a “Coming of Age novel”. I therefore looked for the definition of romance and found: A romance deals with the truth of the human heart. I therefore think, that I have to accept it and thank you very much for your precisions:)
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Great points, Martina! I think “Jane Eyre” is many things — coming of age, romance, mystery, social commentary, etc.!
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Exactly, that’s it! Thank you very much, Dave, for your precision:)
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You had me thinking, Martina, and what came to mind was a “hero’s journey,” which is a thread throughout all literature. I looked up the definition: the hero’s journey, or the monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, is victorious in a decisive crisis, and comes home changed or transformed.” In many ways, Jane Eyre is a hero’s journey, especially knowing the background of the author. For me, when I read books like Jane Eyre, I embark on a hero’s journey – I “live” the narrative with them and have come away transformed.
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What a great idea, Rebecca, which I can feel very well!) I really enjoyed our precious conversation about Jane Eyre and the changes which are brought about us by reading important books! Many thanks.
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SO well said, Rebecca!
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Hi Rebecca, I also read A Gentleman in Moscow on your recommendation and I enjoyed it very much. I thought Alexander might have been a real person but discovered he was not. I also didn’t like Gatsby, I don’t think he was meant to be likeable, but Mr Rochester was interesting. I did love Jane Eyre.
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Robbie, one indeed has the sense when reading “A Gentleman in Moscow” that it’s historical fiction even though it’s not (though obviously containing some historical aspects).
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Jane Eyre was a favouite. I think I was caught reading Jane Eyre in math class, hidden behind the math text. YIKES!!
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You deserved an A+ for doing that, Rebecca! 🙂
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LOL!!!
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I always used to read in class when my school work was finished. As a result, I always rushed everything. I still do this with my work (grin!). My mom says that’s why I don’t like working with other people, I can do it much faster myself and get to other things I prefer doing. You can never hid your true colours from your mother.
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Another deserved A+ for that. 🙂
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I loved the story of Sara Crewe in ‘A Little Princess’ by Frances Hodgson Burnett (1905). Born into affluence, 7 year old Sara holds a compassionate and gracious attitude towards every single other character, even the horrible ones, before and after she loses her wealth. She is kind, clever, and seemingly has it all in the first chapters of the book.
Readers in 2022 one might suppose she’s a character written with too few flaws to be relatable – plus, she embraces the system where equality exists as a given, instead of truely rejecting it (there even is one line where she says she “scatters largess” which is quite condescending toward the less fortunate people to whom she “gives”).
But I think the author was writing within the bounds of what she knew in the early 20th century. Growing up I felt Sara was the sort of character who represented the “good” in humanity and the world. Could be the childhood nostalgia talking but I still like her!
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Thank you, talus more! That’s a wonderful example, and very well described. Sara is a role model for us all. 🙂 Sometimes characters can indeed seem too good to be true, but it’s kind of refreshing to encounter them here and there as an antidote to all the nasty types in literature and real life.
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I just got hold of ‘A Gentleman in Moscow’ to read on holiday. It’s been on that list for a while now so am looking forward to reading it – although it wasn’t easy to get hold of!
I’ve been reading Poirot and I suppose he’s got money – although it’s never explicitly explained where it all comes from. He’s quite affable really although I wonder if it would be annoying knowing that he’s always right?
Rudolph Rassendyll in ‘The Prisoner of Zenda’ also has money. He’s prepared to go to all lengths in order to ensure a kingdom gets the ruler it ought to have, so quite a decent chap.
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Thank you, Sarah! Glad you got “A Gentleman in Moscow” — you have a very pleasurable read in your future. 🙂
And I appreciate the mentions of two other characters. I guess amateur detective types such as Poirot (and Dorothy L. Sayers’ Lord Peter Wimsey) need a certain amount of money to finance their investigations and have the time for them.
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I’m not sure if Agatha Christie ever explicitly says so, but I believe Poirot is self-made as a professional private detective. He employs Miss Lemon as his secretary for his detective business, he gets paid as such, and is not shy about announcing to the universe who’s the best detective out there 🙂 In fact, he got to the point that he feels comfortable only taking cases he likes, like on Murder on the Orient Express he refuses an ungodly (I don’t remember how much :)) fee from Mr. Ratchett for that reason.
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Interesting, Endless Weekend. I must have remembered wrong that Poirot was an amateur rather than professional detective. Many years since I’ve read Agatha Christie. 🙂
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Miss Marple certainly was an amateur detective. And at some point Poirot retires, and still solves cases. So perhaps we’re all right? 🙂
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Okay, that works for me. 🙂 Thank you, Endless Weekend!
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I’m sure Christie would think it very uncouth to be discussing things such as money and income, which is perhaps why it’s never mentioned – so British! 😆
And just throwing another detective into this discussion. I started to think about the other great detectives and, naturally, Holmes sprung to mind – although he wouldn’t be a good fit for this week. I think Watson alludes to the fact that Holmes is also happy to only take on cases he’s interested in but I think he’s in more need of the income and shouldn’t be so picky perhaps! 😄
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Sarah, I enjoyed your reference to the British and money and being subtle about it. 🙂
Yes, Sherlock Holmes didn’t seem to be rolling in wealth even though he had the smarts to have gotten quite rich. No “Sign of the Four” million pounds in his bank account. 🙂
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😀 yes, British manners and what’s considered acceptable. That’s why we talk about the weather so much!!
Holmes wasn’t tempted by the blue ‘carbuncle’ either so money really wasn’t a motivating factor for him whatsoever!!
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One of the reasons many readers admire Sherlock Holmes!
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That’s an interesting observation. Certainly they express different attitudes towards money. Poirot was said to keep 444 pounds, 4 shillings, and 4 pence in his bank account, whereas Holmes had no qualms about demanding a check for 6k pounds…
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Ironic that Poirot rather than Holmes has “The Sign of the Four” when it comes to money. 🙂
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Or vice versa 🙂
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Ha, Endless Weekend! 🙂
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Ooo. Interesting. I didn’t know that. I wonder if Christie was giving a little nod to Doyle there?
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That’s a great question, Sarah!
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Two very different ones come to mind that I liked for different reasons as a young(er) girl 🙃 Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice and Sir Percy Blakeney from The Scarlet Pimpernel (the French Revolution’s Batman…).
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Thank you, Endless Weekend! Two excellent mentions of novels — one of which I’ve read (“Pride and Prejudice”). A number of Jane Austen’s characters are definitely somewhat or very affluent, with some decent sorts (such as Anne Elliot of “Persuasion”) amid the jerks and buffoons.
“The French Revolution’s Batman” — nice turn of phrase!
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Thank you, Dave, I wasn’t sure how purists from either side would take that analogy 😁 🦇
Emma’s George Knightley stands out for his compassion and gallantry, even when he’s jealous, but not being as well off as many of Jane Austen’s other characters I had to go with Mr. Darcy (ok, for other reasons, too…).
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Yes, Mr. Darcy is appealing on more than one level. 🙂 And, yes again, there are definitely various gradations of wealth among Austen’s characters — including “poor” relation Fanny Price who’s not actually super-poor in “Mansfield Park.”
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I credit Jane Austen’s wonderful writing style that her pragmatism and laser-like focus on money is charming instead of bothersome. “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.” I smile every time I start reading that book!
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Totally agree about Jane Austen’s writing style! She can make almost anything feel appealing even when it isn’t.
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Maybe this something Wodehouse has in common with her. His style and skill buff up to a high gloss the affairs of dim drones, bright butlers and forbidding aunts, which otherwise might not attract so many happy readers.
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That’s an insightful observation, jhNY. I can see some connections between the work of Austen and Wodehouse. And…hmm…there is the similarly named character of (Emma) Woodhouse. 🙂
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The natural alliance of nobility across national borders, working to save our betters from rough handling by the unbridled and unruly underclasses– but yep, also their Batman, in that our Batman was the scion of privileged wealth who acted on his notion of higher justice than law, as did the Pimpernel.
It is my unresearched opinion that the French middle and upper-middle classes worked themselves into a thorough revulsion of the perceived excesses of the mob in the decades after the revolution, and used that revulsion as a shield of unconcern for the lower orders onto which they projected these excesses, when in fact, a good many in the dark days of Robespierre and Danton et al, were, like their leaders, well above the proletariat they had bestirred to revolt.
And certainly, there were excesses to decry, but not to the excess they were decried by reactionary and conservative voices who were never the allies or sympathizers of any new order, voices which were heard throughout the rest of Europe, not least of all in England, most famously expressed by Edmund Burke, of whose conclusions Thomas Paine famously remarked, “He mourns the plumage, but forgets the dying bird.”
In the revolution’s aftermath, the rise of Napoleon came about because the crowned heads of Europe, England’s among them,, sent armies into France to re-establish royalty over the new republic. He proved a most able, fearless and ruthless field commander against them, and was eventually rewarded with a co-consulship, which he also conquered, and perversely, or inevitably, went on to take upon himself an emperor’s crown.
I count the Scarlet Pimpernel as a fictitious embodiment of a sentiment for noble, if not royal, retrenchment– but the readership was generally solid middle class, and whatever the underlying political sentiment, there is much intrigue, adventure and excitement to be had within the pages of that series.
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An eloquent mini-essay, jhNY!
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I meant to cite Charles Nodier and Alexander Dumas, who each wrote things that bespeak an deep unease with the revolutionary period and mob action, years after.
I might have also mentioned that the guillotine, that instrument of horror under the power of the mob, was still in use, when sentencing demanded, under authority of the French state, through all forms of government, till the 1950’s.
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Of course mob action can be revolutionary or anti-revolutionary — with the latter often ordered, encouraged, funded by the rich and powerful.
Yikes! I didn’t know the guillotine was still used until relatively recently!
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I LOVED The Scarlet Pimpernel. What I just discovered was that there are 15 novels in The Scarlet Pimpernel series written between 1905 and 1940.
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Wow, Rebecca — I didn’t know that was such an extensive series!
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I only ever read the first, and I didn’t know it was a first in a series, I always thought it was a standalone book as well. Do you know if the others were as good?
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I’ve just read the first of the Scarlet Pimpernel books and thought it fantastic. I knew there were more but didn’t know there were that many!!
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My mind immediately went to Mr. Darcy from Pride & Prejudice! 🙂 I figured I would get beat the punch mentioning him hahaha!
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Ha, M.B.! 🙂 Thank you! You did better than I did; I didn’t include any Jane Austen characters in my post despite having read all six of her novels. No sense and sensibility on my part. 🙂
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LOL Well done
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Thank you, M.B.! 🙂
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He is admired by many, in the book and outside the book as well 🙂
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Very true!
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Thanks to Elisabeth van der Meer, Rebecca Budd, Robbie Cheadle, and M.B. Henry for recommending “A Gentleman in Moscow”!
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Hi Dave, I am really glad you enjoyed this book. I loved it and now my mum loves it too. She has listened to the audio book three times.
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I am enjoying it immensely, Robbie! Beautifully written, and Rostov is such an appealing character. Great that your mother is a big fan of the novel, too!
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