
Seven years ago, I posted a piece about “Liars in Literature.” Now, with “The Lyin’ King” Donald Trump having announced another presidential run last week, I thought it would be timely to write a follow-up featuring some lying characters I’ve “met” since 2015.
Those fictional fibbers may not be admirable, but they sure can be interesting. We wonder why they lie, if they believe their own lies, whether others believe their lies, whether lying will help them or hurt them, etc. But there’s no wondering about whether truth-averse hater Trump’s “Truth Social” social-media platform has the most hilariously Orwellian name ever. 🙂
Among literature’s liars mentioned in my 2015 post were the despotic rulers in George Orwell’s 1984, the men who framed Edmond Dantes in Alexandre Dumas’ The Count of Monte Cristo, the murderer in Agatha Christie’s And Then There Were None, the aristocratic Godrey Cass in George Eliot’s Silas Marner, young Briony Tallis in Ian McEwan’s Atonement, and the impoverished Mayella Ewell (who lies under pressure from her brutal/racist father) in Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird.
Some fibbers in novels I’ve read since 2015? Lawrence Osborne’s creepily compelling The Glass Kingdom, which I just finished, stars a young American woman who’s a liar and thief — though she’s partly sympathetic due to her social awkwardness, the way she’s victimized by several people even more unethical than she is, and the fact that her secrets are not as secret as she thinks. Sarah Mullins is living in Bangkok (pictured above) — the huge, new-and-old, multicultural capital city of Thailand that Osborne describes so minutely and evocatively that it’s no lie to say it’s a co-star of his 2020 thriller.
Another untruth-teller, in Liane Moriarty’s aptly titled Big Little Lies, is brutal abuser Perry Wright — who has a respectable public reputation as a hedge-fund manager. (Perhaps being a hedge-fund manager should’ve been a giveaway.)
Also possessing vicious traits beneath an upright public facade is Nils Bjurman, the lying state-appointed guardian of Lisbeth Salander in Stieg Larsson’s Millennium Trilogy (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.).
In addition, there’s the Nazi murderer who forges a false identity as an American wife in Kate Quinn’s thriller The Huntress.
And the unnamed narrator of Henry James’ The Aspern Papers who’s guilty of using subterfuge to try to get his hands on the letters of a famous deceased poet.
Law-enforcement officials in Angie Thomas’ The Hate U Give? Quite willing to lie to protect a white police officer who murdered a young Black man.
The three Joy Fielding novels I’ve read all prominently include liars — in some cases close family members who might seem loving but are actually kind of psycho. That trio of suspenseful books includes Grand Avenue, Don’t Cry Now, and Lost.
Of course there’s also Jay Gatsby, who lies about many things in The Great Gatsby. Oops, I read F. Scott Fitzgerald’s iconic novel before 2015, but forgot to mention it in my seven-years-ago post. 🙂
Your favorite (or not-so-favorite) liars in literature?
My literary-trivia book is described and can be purchased here: Fascinating Facts About Famous Fiction Authors and the Greatest Novels of All Time.
In addition to this weekly blog, I write the 2003-started/award-winning “Montclairvoyant” topical-humor column for Baristanet.com every Thursday. The latest piece — about my town’s secretive Council and a parking deck finally opening — is here.
Your blog posts inspire such great comments! It is chilling to be reminded about Goebbels: “If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.” Yikes! We must keep doing what we can to speak/write/sing truth to (corrupt) power.
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Thank you for the kind words, willedare!
And, yes, your mention of the despicable Goebbels and his “philosophy” of endless lying is apt when it comes to Trump and his ilk. It does seem like Trump is losing a bit of his influence among Republicans — not because they’ve found some morals, but because he is causing the party some election losses — but he still has way too much influence.
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Yup. And a scared, angry, cornered, wounded, ashamed animal tends to behave more and more frantically and erratically as time goes by (and possible escape routes are closed off…)
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A VERY good point! We’d get some examples of that if Trump were (deservedly) indicted, if he lost in the Republican primaries, if he won the primaries and then lost the presidential race again…
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The first thing that comes to mind is how on earth do you get the time to read all the books you have and then write this blog. I have the greatest admiration for your achievements, not only I do have a wonderful take on the life you present, but also the hugely diverse comments you attract. It seems to me I seldom have the time to leave a remark. I’m grateful to find that time now. Thank you for the entertainment you have given me, and I wish you a Very Happy Christmas to you and yours.
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Thank you very much for the kind comment, Daniel! Very appreciated. 🙂 Many of the novels my blog posts mention I read years or even decades ago, so, while I do read a number of books each month, it might look like I read more than I do. 🙂 Wishing you and yours a great holiday season, too!
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I’m 74 years old now and I’m very afraid to say that my memory is lacking. It gets worse as each day passes. I have many physical problems, the same amount as many my age have, but although some are serious none are so worrying as this memory thing. Thank you for your kind wishes.
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Very sorry about your memory and health issues, Daniel. Those are indeed things one can’t help worrying about. 😦 (I’m in my 60s myself, so I’m getting there.) In terms of me recalling details from novels I read long ago, sometimes I need to look at online plot summaries to refresh my memory. 🙂
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Gerard de Villefort! ( ONE of the villains in Count of Monte Cristo! I can think of several others!)
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Thank you, Maggie! Definitely some villainous liars in that riveting Dumas novel — sending the innocent Edmond Dantes to prison for many years.
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Oh yes! I rather admire the passive aggressive way he dealt with them
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Sublimely brilliant!
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Yeah. And, because of the way he did it, he wasn’t responsible for anything that happened to them
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Excellent observation!
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It was probably pretty hard for him. Thank goodness for his wealth!😆
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Yes! Lots of money, courtesy of that prison connection. Nice that those riches went to someone who deserved them!
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Not non-fiction, but worth a read: “Lying” by Sam Harris. It’s very short, and makes compelling arguments that 1) lying – even the little white kind – is really never desirable, and 2) it’s essentially a threshold vice required to facilitate nearly every major vice. It will change the way you look at lying.
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Thank you, Donna! Sounds like a fascinating, thought-provoking book! Sam Harris is the well-known atheist, isn’t he? A philosophy that makes total sense to me.
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As much as I disapprove of lying, one of my favorite literary characters is a liar: Lyra Belacqua in “His Dark Materials” by Philip Pullman. She is an entertaining liar. Kurt Vonnegut wrote that the secret of good storytelling is to lie, but to keep the arithmetic straight.
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Thank you, vanaltman! When a liar in literature is entertaining, that can be quite appealing — even as we might not be as entertained by a real-person liar if that liar is negatively affecting our lives. 🙂
And I like that Vonnegut thought!
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I hate liars!!!!
You have mentioned Joy’s books. Yay! Yes, there are liars in many of her books!
I really need to catch up. I love her stories.
The liars in the Catholic Church are exposed in “Our Fathers: The Secret Life of the Catholic Church in an Age of Scandal”. Still, it’s not fiction… but the lies sure are.
I’ve read many of the books you have mentioned.
A fab post, for sure!
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Thank you, Resa! I share your opinion of liars. And, yes, Joy Fielding is very skilled at depicting some fictional ones. As for the real-life Catholic Church liars guilty of sexual abuse, covering up sexual abuse, and other crimes…they’re indeed despicable.
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Thank you, Dave! Appreciate you, and your blog!
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You’re welcome, Resa, and the feeling is mutual!
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I’m thinking that the Lyin King is more like Uriah Heep in Dickens’s novel David Copperfield, since he is as much a grifter as he is a liar. Apparently, David Copperfield was one of Freud’s favorite books. Then there is Catch Me If You Can, a biography by that well known conman, Frank Abagnale Jr (great movie too). Great theme Dave. And early Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Susi
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Thank you, Susi! Two great examples! Being a liar and a grifter is of course kind of related. Trump certainly “excels” at both. And Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, too!
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The Baron Hieronymus von Munchausen (1720-1797), actual veteran of mercenary service to the imperial Russian army, was given to telling tall tales to his dinner guests at his country estate. One guest, a man named Raspe, finding the tales to be so improbable as to be hilarious, wrote some down later while in England, adding no small amount of embroidery, when in desperate need of money after a flight to avoid his creditors. To these tales, after first publication in that nation, were added more– each more improbable than the last– to the delight of readers there and soon in France and Germany.
The baron was not among the delighted. “The dinner parties ceased– and their once genial host crept through his last decade a dispirited recluse.”
My summary, and that last quoted sentence, I derived from the introduction by Joanne Turnbull to the NYRB publication of Krzhizhanovsky’s “The Return of Munchausen” (1927?), itself fantastic in every way.
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Thank you, jhNY! Love that example! (Your description of it; I’ve never read those tales or seen Terry Gilliam’s 1980s movie version.)
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There are outright,knowing liars, and then,there are sometimes liars who don’t know they lie, or at least not always, or even,often.
My most recent encounter with such a one is first-person narrator Toby Hennesy, in Tana French’s “The Witching Elm”. He considers himself “lucky”, or has reason to consider he always has been– until he is beaten very badly, to the point he has fog where once he had memories.
But it turns out, as the novel gets underway, that Toby was never one given to deep reflection, and instead, has gone along, in school and in life after, whenever that was most convenient to himself,only now, he can’t be sure of a great many things, among them events in years prior to his beating. An old murder comes to light, right in his uncle’s backyard, and at first, it would seem Toby knows nothing about it, but we are left, Toby and ourselves, to put together just how much– if at all– he was involved, and how, and why. And most of the time, he is as surprised as his readers at each revealing turn of the plot.
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Thank you, jhNY! Sounds like “The Witching Elm” uses a lying/sort-of-not-knowing theme in a very unusual and intriguing way! Extremely well described by you.
Your first paragraph reminded me a bit of war criminal Donald Rumsfeld’s famous quote: “There are known knowns — there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns — that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” 🙂
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Would have been a better world if the man himself had, his entire career, been an unknown unknown, laboring in obscurity on something unimportant.
The week’s theme is allied to the old ‘untrustworthy narrator’ p.o.v. Often, the example of “The Good Soldier” by Ford Madox Ford earns a mention. I’ve read it– you can’t quite trust what your being told, because of the fellow telling you.
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Yes to your Rumsfeld sentiment!
And that’s a terrific angle on lying in literature — the untrustworthy/unreliable narrator.
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Hi Dave, an interesting topic and not something I’ve ever actively thought about before. The book that springs immediately to mind is The Picture of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde. Dorian’s whole life becomes a lie as the hidden picture shows the physical impacts of Dorian’s selfish and evil behaviour while he remains young looking and beautiful. An intriguing book about the corruption of the soul. Another books is Catch 22. Yossarian’s attempts to get out of active service by pretending to be ill are a lie.
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Hi Dave, I just thought about The Red Badge of Courage and Henry’s behaviour when he runs away from the battlefield because he is scared and then he pretends he’s been injured. He does a few quite devious and shameful things before he becomes a hero.
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Oh, and I just thought of The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether by Edgar Allan Poe. That was such a brilliant story of deception by the inmates of the mental asylum. Have you read this one? It is a favourite of mine.
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I think that’s one of the few Edgar Allan Poe works I’ve never read, Robbie. It sounds amazing! I’ll look for it online later today or tomorrow.
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Just read that Poe story, Robbie. Wow! An unusual tale. I really liked it!
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HI Dave, it is different in some ways from is other shorts. I found it very interesting and had a good laugh about the Tarr and Fether which is a saying I grew up with.
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Yes, not a horror story (or a detective story or a sea story) and quite funny at times! Thanks again for mentioning it!
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I also thought it was funny!
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More humor than in any other Poe story I can recall!
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Thank you for another great mention, Robbie! Sometimes liars can be flawed yet also sympathetic, as is the case with the protagonist in “The Red Badge of Courage.”
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Yes, that’s right, Dave. I am always revisiting Henry and delving back into his psychology.
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Yes, a character who attracts revisiting!
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Thank you, Robbie! Those memorable Oscar Wilde and Joseph Heller works (both of which I read many years ago) are excellent examples of this theme! Your spot-on mention of “Catch-22” reminds me of an earlier, somewhat similar satirical antiwar novel with plenty of deceit — “The Good Soldier Švejk” by Czech writer Jaroslav Hašek. It’s quite a read!
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Hi Dave, Dorian Grey was also on my mind, but decided not to post it. And Oscae Wilde, amazing . His statue as I may have memtioned before, across his residence with a smirk on his face.
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Bebe, it’s a great statue — and that’s no lie. 🙂
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Thanks for showing that statue again, Bebe! So different than most monuments to famous people.
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Happy Thanksgiving to your family with vegetarian food Dave ,
I am reading Reacher, it is different from others , more of mind game !!!
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Thank you, Bebe! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, too! Yes, vegetarian tomorrow. 🙂
I’m very intrigued about the way this latest Reacher book sounds!
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Yes , I should be able to finish in a few days. Goes from one incident to another, later they will all be connected.
I have some gap in between ( trump news is in the way) so I needed to go back to check the prvcious one.
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Yes, almost everything gets connected at the end of a Reacher book. 🙂
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Okay Dave…several characters are going on in here.
But there is also a gentle story about an young man running away from foster care, very honest…is driving me nuts.
Now all I am interested is about his safety.
Is he going to meet reacher eventually …
Okay that`s it i should leave the rest to you when you get to read it.
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You’ve certainly got me even more interested in reading it, Bebe!
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Complex book with too many characters.
Finished, now flipping through pages !
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Sorry about the character overflow. Lee meets Leo (Tolstoy)? 🙂 I still want to read it, and will. 🙂
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In the end Reacher is alive and well and has moved on until we meet again next year 🙂
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Always a survivor. 🙂
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I’ve been wanting to read it as well!
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I LOVE the Reacher books. 🙂
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Hi Dave, thanks for that mention. Another one for my TBR. Its been a tough two months with work and Michael’s illness so I am going to wallow in my favourite war books until the end of the year as a treat.
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Totally understand that we can’t even come close to reading everything — especially when one is so busy with work, family, and medical stuff. 😦 Hoping Michael is recovering from his latest surgery okay.
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Hi Dave, the doctor was pleased when he took the stents out yesterday. We now have to aggressively treat to prevent scar tissue forming. Michael is also on an antibiotic to prevent inflammation and infection.
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Sounds like some cautiously good news there. Fingers crossed that the anti-scar treatment and antibiotics work well!
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🤗💖
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The Yossarian case is the essence of the novel’s central notion– the Catch-22. If a person reports that he’s losing his mind due to the pressures and dangers of flying many bombing missions, and requests to be relieved of duty, he cannot be crazy– because, given the circumstances, the situation IS crazy, and the person is only having a sane reaction, and thus cannot be crazy. And therefore, cannot expect to be relieved of duty.
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Exactly! Such a brilliant premise!
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Yes, that is true. It is a clever book. I am listening to to as an audio book at the moment and enjoying it very much.
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I can imagine how interesting an audiobook that would be!
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Having read the book, I was,unlike so many viewers at the time, pleased with Mike Nichols’ movie of the novel. Got the surreal, sardonic and desperate mood of the book pretty well captured.
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Never saw the movie. Glad you liked it!
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Today, unexpectadly, “Our man in Havana” by Graham Greene came to my mind. The main character sells vacuum cleaners and as he is frequently without money he let’s himself being hired by the British secret service. As he is however unable to come to grips with this jobs, he just invents things on his reports. Many thanks, Dave, for this challenging post and a good week!
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Hi Martina, the main character inventing things in his reports sounds quite interesting. Thanks for mentioning this book.
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Thank you, Martina! That’s a terrific example! Your description definitely convinced me to put that novel on my to-read list. I’ve read a little of Graham Greene, and need to read more. 🙂 Have a great week, too!
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Very good to here, Dave, and enjoy yourself reading it!
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I’m sure I will, Martina! Hope my town’s library has it. 🙂
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If a liar taking advantage of every opportunity strikes your fancy, there’s another Graham Greene novel to try: “Stamboul Train”– though there are several characters en route who are not quite what they seem, for various, sometimes even commendable reasons.
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Thank you, jhNY! I’ll look for that one, too. Chances are my local library will have one of the two. 🙂 The only Graham Greene novel I’ve read is “The Power and the Glory” (which was quite good) and the only GG short story I’ve read is “Proof Positive” (which was mind-blowing).
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Green wrote a few novellas made to resemble movies– “Ministry of Fear”, for example– his intent. A few were even made into same– the aforementioned is one.
“Stamboul Train”, thriller of sorts, is one of his longer efforts in that line, I think– one of his self-described “entertainments”. (As is “Brighton Rock”.)
I have not found myself attracted to his more serious efforts at literature to date. My loss, very probably.
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Interesting, jhNY. He certainly seemed to vary his approach. I wasn’t strongly moved to read another Graham Greene novel after “The Power and the Glory,” but will give him another try.
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Greene must have felt he hit his intended mark squarely. Imagine writing a spy thriller–“Ministry of Fear” such as might resemble a Fritz Lang film, and see it become one!
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A dream-come-true moment!
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Thank you very much for this proposal, which I don’t know! I added it to my reading list:)
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🙂
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Enjoy!
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I have read a number of the short stories that inspired The Twilight Zone and I was always impressed with lying and subterfuge used by The Devil, who starred in many of those episodes. I realize these probably don’t qualify as literature. I recall a bit of a twisted liar in Fahrenheit 451, which I reread several years ago. I did not remember the character’s name, so I looked it up. It’s Captain Beatty.
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Thank you, Dan! Probably not exactly the same thing, but I have a “Twilight Zone” collection with short-story versions of some of the TV episodes and they’re great, with some lying involved. And, “speaking of the devil,” you reminded me of Mikhail Bulgakov’s great novel “The Master and Margarita,” which includes plenty of deceit. And that’s an excellent “Fahrenheit 451” mention!
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I mentioned those stories, partly in response to the opening political discussion. The devil in most of those episodes “wins” by telling the victim what the victim wants to hear. If you want to watch an episode (or read if you can find it), “He’s Alive” (episode 4, Season 4) looks like an instruction manual for some of today’s politicians.
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Ah, I see what you were saying. Definitely some similarities between the devil’s approach and the approach of certain politicians!
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Dave, how about this ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-63651606
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Wow, Bebe! Fascinating piece! I had no idea Tagore was such a prolific artist, that some of his works were displayed in Germany, and that the Nazis “purged” five of his paintings. The Nazis were vile in so many ways…
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Also appropriate for the weeks post Dave, I thought.
How about that 🥰
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Yes indeed, Bebe! The liars of the Trump kind have echoes of 1930s Nazi Germany. 😦
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Some deceitful characters in fiction who have not been mentioned so far included Emma Bovary, Rodion Raskolnikov “Crime and Punishment”, Anna Karenina, Gilbert Osmond “The Portrait of a Lady”, and Clyde Griffiths “An American Tragedy”.
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Thank you, Anonymous! A terrific list of five deceitful characters created by five terrific novelists!
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If plays are included, Blanche DuBois from “A Streetcar named Desire” was either a liar or living in a fantasy world, perhaps a bit of both.
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Absolutely! A bit like another Tennessee Williams character, Laura Wingfield of “The Glass Menagerie.”
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Robert Louis Stevenson’s Dr. Jekyll was another extremely deceitful character in fiction.
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Good one! Such an iconic novel!
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The Big Little Lies should shape our national politics, we might have to reconsider when we have better liars than Trump…and Moriarty’s skilled characters
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Thank you, Bio Chem Pro! There are certainly more subtle liars than Trump, which I suppose makes them “better” liars. And, yes, Liane Moriarty is VERY skillful at creating interesting, believable characters. She’s one of my favorite contemporary authors.
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And after meeting all these characters and knowing who Trump is, will our vote count for the sake of future generations?
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Thank you, Anonymous! Good question! How people vote in 2024 will definitely have a huge impact on the future. And, in terms of votes counting, there’s of course voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc. (mostly by Republicans these days) that in some cases make it harder for some people to make their votes count. 😦
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Hi Dave, I’ve been reading ‘Animal Farm’ by George Orwell with some of my students – I think we can put forward Napoleon and Squealer for this title! There’s a few juicy lies told in the Poirot books, but won’t say anymore for fear of revealing whodunnit!
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I am going to refrain from saying that when it comee to lies, Animal Farm is full of ‘porkers’ .. Oops I lied…
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😀 you’ve been saving that one up! 😉
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My nose just grew an inch xxx
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Thank you, Sarah! Yes, Orwell was a master in depicting/skewering lies and liars — and “Animal Farm” is a great example of that. And fibs are definitely a huge part of many mysteries and other crime fiction, by Agatha Christie, et al.
Last but not least, I loved the back-and-forth between you and Shehanne. 😂
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I couldn’t help but think that Napoleon reminded me of a certain past (and hopefully NOT future) president….
And yes, some quick fire comments from Shehanne which was definitely a welcome respite from another grey and gloomy morning! 🙂
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I can see that comparison, Sarah!
If Orwell were alive today, he could write a dystopian novel called “1946” (Trump’s birth year).
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Thanks for the giggle Sarah xxxxxxxxxxxx
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When it comes to the “King of the Lies”, especially his serialized novel “The have stolen my election”, as a European, Goebbels is the first thing that comes to mind for me: “If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.”
This technique is of course not new and today we are surrounded by lies to an extent that we generally ignore because otherwise, our system would collapse. Exaggerated? If we leaf through an advertisement in a magazine or walk down a street and just look at the advertising posters, we quickly realize how much fiction and half-truths are present. Fiction in literature is a fine thing, in business, it is close to lying. It gets even worse on the internet: “Get rich – lose weight – 3 steps to your dream career – Happiness till the cows come home….”.
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Thank you, Zettl Fine Arts! Terrific comment about lies that’s full of…truth. Yes, lies and near-lies and exaggerations and so on are rampant in politics, marketing, some of the media, etc. Goebbels, who you mentioned, would be quite proud of many leaders in today’s Republican Party in the U.S.
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I didn’t want to place too much emphasis on the quotes from the despicable propaganda minister G., but if you browse through him you’ll find plenty of tips used in the Capitol storming and other manipulations.
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Depressing, but not surprising. 😦 There’s definitely some 1930s Germany in today’s Republican playbook. 😦
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45 or so years ago, Tom Shales came up with what he thought was the perfect title for mass market success: “Diet Your Way To A Fortune!”
It still has promise, that one.
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Ha! 🙂 That definitely covers some bases. 🙂
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This made me think of the young girls in The Crucible. Their names escape me right now. Great post!
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Thank you, Read Between the Lyme! Great mention of a great Arthur Miller play with a LOT of lying. If I’m remembering right from reading it long ago, it was about the Salem Witch Trials but sort of a metaphor for the McCarthy era.
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You have a great memory! 🙂
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Thank you! 🙂 That brilliant play has really stuck with me since reading it way back when in high school.
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It’s a good one! I used to teach it to juniors in high school. I can’t believe I can’t remember the main young lady’s name! Oh, and The Scarlet Letter is possibly a good one for lies. 🙂
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Great that you taught that play!
I found a list of the characters here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crucible#Characters_(in_order_of_appearance)
And “The Scarlet Letter” is an excellent example of a novel with lies! Deservedly a classic. (I’ve read it twice.)
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Reblogged this on dean ramser.
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Thanks so much for the reblog! 🙂
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Brilliant post. How can we forget the famous early lit liar Pinocchio…. Lol
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Thank you, Shehanne! Great Pinocchio mention! Lord “nose” how I forgot to mention that character. 🙂
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Lol. Brilliant I believe you!!!
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Oh, Shey – that is a great thought. When I first read the Pinocchio story when I was about 4, I would check the mirror to see if my nose had grown longer when I told a lie. It was a moment of angst. LOL.
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Seeing as I was the kind of brat who told them all the time I just never looked in a mirror !! xxxxx
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😂😂😂
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Were you aware there was a two-act opera with music and libretto by Dominick Argento based on “The Aspern Papers”? I remember seeing it on Great Performances in the late 80s.
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Thank you, riceyman! I was not aware of that. Henry James’ memorable novel is certainly a great source for an opera.
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Dave, I love the way you link our “Lyin’ King” with liars in fiction. You’ve covered all the famous liars in literature that I can recall. Our real-life lying antagonist is a formidable character, especially since the stakes are high given our current web of national and international intrigue. How many more will suffer for standing in his way? What will it take to bring him down? What will become of us as a nation if we fail? As participants in this real-life drama, we each play a part in shaping the story and determining how it will all end. If only I could close this book and look away!
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Thank you, Rosaliene! Excellent, spot-on thoughts and questions about Trump. Though he’s lost some of his “mojo,” I think someone that cunning and ruthless can still be dangerous — especially given that he continues to have the strong or tacit support of many spineless Republican politicians as well as backing from about a third of U.S. citizens (who find him entertaining, revel in his racism, love his “owning of the libs,” etc.). 😦
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Another thought provoking post, Dave. Lies have consequences that have a way of creating havoc at the time they are uttered, leading to unanticipated ramifications. The Aspern Papers, which I read last year thanks to one of your posts, challenged me to consider whether lying had merit in situations. What I love about reading is that we explore ambiguity.
The first liars that came to mind when I read your post, were the sisters, Goneril and Regan from King Lear. I remember the first time I read their words of love, a feeling of foreboding came over me. I should have recognized the King Lear is considered a tragedy, but after The Taming of the Shrew, which also had a few lies interwoven in the narrative, I thought that there may be some levity in King Lear. (Spoiler – this is a tragedy with very little levity but there is redemption).
Goneril: “Sir, I love you more than (words) can wield the matter, Dearer than eyesight, space and liberty, Beyond what can be valued, rich or rare, No less than life, with grace, health, beauty, honor;”
Regan: I am made of that self metal as my sister, And prize me at her worth. In my true heart I find she names my very deed of love.”
How can words, so beautifully said, be lies. Perhaps that is why lying is easily accepted.
Shakespeare said it best:
“The weight of this sad time we must obey,
Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say.
The oldest hath borne most: we that are young
Shall never see so much, nor live so long.”
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Thank you, Rebecca! Great thoughts on lying from you…and Shakespeare. Yes, lies can be uttered in beautiful words, and can be well-meaning or cunningly nasty or just plain nasty. A lot of potential ambiguity indeed!
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Bill had that way about him with his dialogue, didn’t he? The more flowery the language he wrote for his character, the higher the fertilizer content.
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LOL, Don! 😂 Your comment, and calling William Shakespeare “Bill.” 🙂
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You are spot on! 😂😂😂
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How about Iago in “Othello”?
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Thank you, Liz! Absolutely! I don’t always think of plays when I write posts. 🙂
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You’re welcome, Dave! Iago was on my mind because at a writers’ group meeting yesterday, one of the members read us a read of his novel-in-progress whose villain is based on Iago. Great fun!
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Quite a model for a novelistic character!
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What a timely post Dave, John Grisham`s The Racketeer, Jhumpa Lahiri`s The Lowland and so many other Novels
Now liar, liar of today`s Con artist who shall remain nameless in here.
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Thank you, Bebe! Yes, some serious lying in “The Lowland” and “The Racketeer.” Various fibbing jerks (and corporations) in other John Grisham novels, too. And it’s no lie that I know who you mean when you mention a certain con artist who lives at Scar-a-Lago.
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HA…you are way too much, love your answer 🙂
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Thank you, Bebe! 🙂
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Let’s not forget the HUGE lie by omission told by Mr. Rochester in Jane Eyre!
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Thank you, lulabelle! That was a huge lie indeed. Lies of omission definitely count.
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And I forgot the “get” in forget!!! Duh?
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Ha, lulabelle. 🙂 Funnily put. 🙂 Happens to us all. I’ll fix it.
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I Charles Dickens “Tale of Two Cities,” lawyer Sydney Carton?
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Thank you, Bridget! Great mention — including for the reason that lying, while usually negative, can occasionally have a higher, positive purpose. Sydney Carton would end up doing both kinds of lying.
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Some liars are actually very charming, at least in literature, think about Cyrano de Bergerac, the big nose 🙂
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I definitely agree that some liars can be charming! Cyrano, definitely. Also someone like Count Fosco in Wilkie Collins’ “The Woman in White.”
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Then I would include the delightful Mr. Darcy who lied, but for such a noble reason that it makes him even more charming?
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Agreed 🙂
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I also agree about Mr. Darcy. Thank you, Endless Weekend!
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Thank you to Mary Jo Malo for recommending Lawrence Osborne!
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You’re welcome, Dave! Lots of great responses here as always. Let us not forget Pinocchio. 🙂
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Thanks again, Mary Jo, for recommending Lawrence Osborne! Not sure I’ve ever read a novel quite like “The Glass Kingdom.” Chilling and menacing, with lots of decadence depicted. And, yes, many great comments already — including your very relevant reference to Pinocchio! 🙂
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